All Past and Future Wars and Discord stem from the Inherent Violence in Unconscious Identification. We can’t choose to Change the Future if we don’t first understand how the Chooser cannot choose wisely. Understand what True Respect is and you can never lose it again

J. Krishnamurti.

J. Krishnamurti.

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What a week we’ve had in my Facebook social media communities wrestling, reacting and trying to share a teaching moment to understand the roots of programming of the human mind in us that makes us ego drones of predictability fueling our repeating the mistakes of the past in the Future.

Hogueprophecy is a schoolroom and you who read it and its author are class and catalyst teacher, working together to understand why we repeat our mistakes in the future so that we can break completely with that ugly past and bring about a golden age of love and consciousness promised in the prophecies anticipating the advent of a new humanity.

To help make that understanding arise in our consciousness we need sometimes to confront the robotic behavior and the cancers of false identifications and sometimes facing this is painful, like pealing skin. The price we pay to bridge over these troubled times to a golden age may require we put aside our most precious (but borrowed) identifications. Our country, our religion and ultimately we must drop the core identification that separates us from being united with The Whole of Existence, the name, ego and personality each of us were indoctrinated to take up as who we are “not.”

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The presence of that lies underneath the coating of personality, which is never born and never dies is the source of all right loving, right thinking and right identification. In the latter’s sense, right identification is merely utilitarian. The body-mind in which this Mystery incarnates is like a vehicle we drive down the road of our potential destiny until this vehicle ages and gives out, then the soul steps out of it and thumbs “Forever” for a ride home.

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Society falsely conditions us to identify the body-mind vehicle as who we really are. The driver is forgotten. When the drivers are forgotten, 7.4 billion vehicles have no one steering them down Highway Earth. Is it any wonder that the world is crazy and seems on the verge of some great and planetary disaster?

Hogueprophecy is dedicated to helping all of us remember The Driver of the vehicle. Practicing Meditation is the way I work to remember who is driving this manufactured vehicle called “John Hogue.” I am not that personality. I am the driver. When this witnessing consciousness is aware of itself, perhaps it is then possible to be master of the wheel of this vehicle and not run off the road into a ditch.

I accept the fact that many reading this are not ready to understand and drop their precious, birth-given identities of self, political state and religion. I understand that my devices, my parodies against national anthems, my making jokes about your religious imaginary friends-turned-deities can hurt. I am neither an Atheist nor a Theist because meditation helps me understand that they are two sides of the same false coin of big business religion.

I look beyond them and invite you to look beyond them too.

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If you carry your heart on the threads of the rag of colors stuck on a stick you call your Canadian, American or Islamic State flags, etc. prepare yourself for some pain. I intend with all compassion to upset nationalistic delusions made manifest in the world as political prisons we call “nations” cutting and separating people with borders of Mind.

To end war on earth you need to see your nations vanish.

If you want to end all sectarian religious strife, disband all the great religions. Only then when they have faded away will you and I simply be “religious.”

Osho.

Osho.

J. Krishnamurti, like my meditation teacher, Osho, as well as G.I. Gurdjieff, were perhaps the three most significant twentieth-century prophets that foresaw a new humanity coming. That future humanity will be free of our imaginary chains of identity. My parody lyrics sung to the Canadian National Anthem last week later adding to it the following observation about Identity from J. Krishnamurti was a catalyst for catharsis and discussion among my readers. I took the Canadian National Anthem and converted its lyrics into a nationalistic anthem praising the export of Athabasca tar sand turned into the dirtiest most Greenhouse gas rich crude on the market that could tip the Earth’s warming climate over the edge.

It was too much for Rob G., a Canadian chauvinist. He left this comment about my parody on my Facebook Public Page.

“Always thought you were a bit of a dick. Go fuck yourself!”

This violent reply lives up to just the thing J Krishnamurti, whom I met three times, had to say about the inherent violence lurking behind all attachments to identity. I quoted this passage to Rob and here were his reactions that, to me, seem to epitomize how our identifications make us violent and abusive to others:

FaceManyFingeredWhen you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.

ROB G.
You feel justified in mocking an entire nation and our anthem in order to promote your e-books? Condemning my country for the actions of a few powerful AMERICAN oil companies in one part of one province? I stand by my [go fuck yourself] statement.

HOGUE
Thank you Rob. At least I got you to sound less like a redneck American troll here and I do appreciate that. Throwing a fuck-yourself bomb is so American that I had to check to see if you were one.

Canadian Athabasca crude is a tar baby for the climate. Burn this stuff and tip the climate's scales to a runaway global warming cascade.

Canadian Athabasca crude is a tar baby for the climate. Burn this stuff and tip the climate’s scales to a runaway global warming cascade.

Of course you stand by your statement, at this point in your consciousness how can you do otherwise?

You are under the illusion of being a “Canadian” as much as those oil robber barons from America are under the illusion of being Americans. For their identity’s stick with a red-white-and-blue rag tied to it, they exploit your country. Under “your” nationalistic fever, you have to blame what’s wrong with your country’s potentially catastrophic escalation of CO2 emissions on some outside enemy rather than take responsibility for the Canadians who let those American multi-national corporations in.

Cartoon from the 1900s depicting the pervasive anti-Semitism of Europe where all the crowned heads of Europe blame everything on the Jews.

Cartoon from the 1900s depicting the pervasive anti-Semitism of Europe where all the crowned heads of Europe blame everything on the Jews.

Nationalists always need to find another people to hate and to blame their troubles on as scapegoats. The German nationalists blamed the Jews, you blame the Americans and so it goes. Divisions between human beings deepen and violence is just underneath divisions and scapegoat-mongering nationalism.

Someday humanity will discard these childish ideas and the world will then truly be at peace, truly be enlightened. I love you, Rob. My parody is an act of love and it has helped you come to this moment when you might look deeper into your nationalistic identity and see the violence and separation it creates. Krishnamurti is right about you. He’s right about all of us who are burdened with the chains of our borrowed identities.

The Ft. McMurray fire, is the result of a world getting hotter because of oil and tar sand exports.

The Ft. McMurray fire, is the result of a world getting hotter because of oil and tar sand exports.

ROB G.
I don’t blame the Americans. I needed to point out that YOU were as responsible for the tar sands mess as anyone. How dare you invoke Krishnamurti in all this. He would never have done something as vile as to denigrate an entire people in order to hawk his wares.

HOGUE
Really? Seems pretty clear. He’s called all of us as a body who identify with being part of any nation or religion as all being violent. He is denigrating identity of any type as violence, is he not? Read it again:

When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent… When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence.

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That’s you, Rob, and all the other Canadians. He’s calling you out and all the rest of us separating ourselves with belief, nationalism and traditions.

ROB G.
If you are going to take the moral high ground you should make sure you have something to stand on. I said what I said [Go fuck yourself] because it was the most hateful thing I could think of and an adequate retort to your post which was nothing if not hate-speech directed at Canadians.

HOGUE
When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. That’s why you sought the most hateful thing you could think of, Rob. You’re under the spell of Identification and it has made you speak violently.

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ROB
Big money gets what big money wants in Canada just like America. The vast majority of Canadians are appalled at the environmental mess in northern Alberta including me. I will not accept any pseudo-mystical claptrap about national identities here.

HOGUE
It’s not claptrap, Rob. It is J. Krishnamurti, whom you seem to respect, who is saying that your identification with being Canadian is making you violent. He’s right. Look at your angry words and exaggerated ireful spewing. If I was in the same room with you, I think you would physically assault me.

ROB G.
You didn’t mock my favorite sports team here you basically spit in the face of every Canadian and I take exception to that period.

Krishnamurti-CartoonHOGUE
And thus, as Krishnamurti points out: When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence.

ROB G.
At this point I would like to point out that “in this stage of my evolution” I have the respect NOT to insult freedom-loving Americans, their flag, or their anthem. I will happily apologize for my hateful language if you apologize first for insulting Canadians everywhere.

HOGUE
I have denigrated no nation, because there is no nation to denigrate. There is an illusion of separation of people into nations. That is merely your indoctrination violently and predictably reacting to my statements.

We are all just people living on this planet. The creation of the national or religious identities is imprinted by an imposed society we happen to be born into.

SaudiSwordmenInSilhouetteRob, if you were born “Mohammed” a Muslim in Saudi Arabia, you’d be railing at me for my hits on Saudi society. If you were born an American, your bias would be programmed to agree with me hitting the Canadians just for the sake of it and not thinking why. If there were no Americans or Canadians labels you would not be angry and abusive now. It is Identity that makes you an angry man.

I think you said your piece and I understand where you’re coming from. If you could manage your anger better you might not bleed your power of perception away. You could then look at my words in a calmer light. Many Canadians, like Kerry and Brandi below, get what I’m saying and don’t take my parody so seriously. They didn’t see it as hurtful, but satirically funny. A way to use humor to make people think. Those Canadians can take criticism.

CanadianFlagOminousSunsetfirecloudsKERRY K.
Canadians are fully aware of the tar sands pollution. We have a new government who seems directed to alternative fuels. I have called my representatives to address this situation. We only contribute 1 per cent to the worlds total. Until China, India and yes the U.S drop their outputs, it will continue to be a mess. As far as your parody goes who cares it had some truth to it. Take Care John, enjoy your books.

TarSands-DumpTrucksDarkGrayDesolationHOGUE
Thank you, Kerry. Hopefully Trudeau will “can the ‘duh'” in “O Canada” about these tar sands because if Canada expands the full capacity to export the Athabasca mother load of bitumen it will flood the market with another Saudi Arabian sized ocean of even dirtier oil. Today, Canada may enjoy only one-percent culpability in CO2 emission setting the skies on fire, but as a futurist, I anticipate the trends. In a few short years your country will be one of the leaders in unraveling the Earth’s climate. Keep pressing your leaders, Kerry. And Rob, rather than powerlessly rail against me, why not direct your bountiful energy at your government instead. Work to send those American corporations back over the border. I’m all for Canada coming back to its environmental senses as you are.

BRANDI
We may contribute a small amount globally, but we can do better. And our fellow Canadians who cannot take criticism with good grace, they don’t speak for us all.

HOGUE
Thank you Brandi. I love Canada and Canadians. I only shock with parody and other devices those whom I love, who need a little shaking up. Sometimes that’s what a true friend and lover does if one is lucky to have such compassionate friends.

BRANDI
If we cannot laugh at ourselves, we have no business laughing at others. Though on this issue, I really want to cry when I see what we are doing to our home.

Krishnamurti-bluepatternportraitHOGUE
Every person on this planet, whatever their false nationalistic identities, are heating up the atmosphere. Anyone who uses fossil fuel has a responsibility for what is happening to this planet and is at fault. It’s a fact. Face it, no matter how initially painful. Come to an acceptance that we are all responsible. That’s the first step in becoming “response” ABLE. Then we can work to fix the problem together as one human race.

And by the way, Yes Rob, I promote my books because I’m a writer by profession. I would add that the Krishnamurti Foundation during K’s life was ever displaying quotes like the above to sell his books. I’m glad they did. Otherwise I would have never known Krishnamurti’s rare and life transforming insights. If you would read my books rather than rant ignorantly about them you would know that I’m fair in hitting all sides when it comes to ego identification, whatever the labels attaching us to self, nationalism, fossilized tradition and every theist and atheist organized religion.

[In chimed Yvonne, next. She had initiated half of the conversation stream of complaints about my parody hurting her nationalistic feelings, and then erased the whole stream including mine and other people’s interesting responses. Now she comes to slam the cyberspace door in my face in one parting pitter-patter of her keyboard. This gives us another “teaching moment” about expectations.]

ETGrumpyCatYVONNE
I once respected your opinions and scholarly knowledge but that is no longer possible! My sincere best to you in your future “Prophetic Endeavours”

HOGUE
Thank you, Yvonne. It is easy to respect my views when they happen to harmonize with your expectations. The real test for every reader is to “respect” (look a second time and deeper) when I train my iconoclastic “respected” opinions and “scholarly knowledge” on your cherished and self-identified beliefs.

That can be an important moment of growth, when you’re really looking at what I’m saying and not just liking “John Hogue” because he thinks like you and agrees with you. That perception is worthless.

Apologies to Percy Jackson, the Lightning Thief, but Uma Thurmond with her Medusa locks of snakes is a good metaphor for the mind plague spreading its psychic pollution to the etheric mind-sphere.

Apologies to Percy Jackson, the Lightning Thief, but Uma Thurmond with her Medusa locks of snakes is a good metaphor for the mind plague spreading its psychic pollution to the etheric mind-sphere.

I’m not here to feed your egos. Eventually we come to some issue where my “respected” opinion hurts that ego. If you can stay with me then, and look at yourself, something of spiritual value is possible. You might all come to an experience of what real Respect is and this respect can never be insulted or taken down by another. Strive to live your lives in a state of respect, the state of looking a second, third and fourth time, as many times as you need to peel the layers of an issue until you come to the moment in your memory when an incident or the society tricked you into borrowing one of its infinite stupidities of identification.

For instance, if someone has hurt your nationalistic feelings like I did to Yvonne and Rob. Witness inside yourself deep and find the moment in your memory when you borrowed the idea that you are a “Canadian.” You were made to adopt this identity and later burden it with emotionally nationalistic baggage coming from others.

OverthinkingMindVolcanoIf you look deep with meditation you will see the memory of a moment someone else turned you into a “Canadian” a “Christian” a “Jew” or an “American” and so on. At that moment began a process of dividing you from other human beings who are also being brain-dirtied to do the same. I don’t say brainwashed because I’m all for brainwashing, moment to moment. Get all that borrowed crap of identity out of my mind so it can be clean and innocently intelligent again. Osho is right, we are all born intelligent, stupidity, like national, religious or ego identity, is borrowed.

Yvonne, at this moment, ego identity is winning. Ego slams the door. Just remember, my door to you is always open. You are always welcome to come back. Be well.

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ANTHONY D’A.
Just one aspect I’d like to draw into question. The issue is choice.

Ideally, or perhaps ultimately, we always have choice in most matters of our lives. But in the case of my own life, my work situation put some limits on my choices on a practical level.

I found myself in a dead-end job driving for a living. There was no practical way I would have been able to buy an electric car, or perhaps one powered by Hydrogen. Hell, I had a hard time keeping the gas powered car on the road.

Now I am disabled by medical problems and certainly don’t have the resources to acquire a hydrogen fueled vehicle, although that would certainly be my first choice. (BTW — am talking about burning hydrogen as fuel, NOT fuel cells.)

Is it right to fault ourselves for being unable to manifest the kind of universal abilities we know we all possess as potentialities? Somewhere between the spiritual ideals and the practical walls we build for ourselves is a real set of options.

Rather than setting up for failure in living up to those ideals, it might be a good idea to look at practical application of those ideas in a way that is within reach for the majority of people who are not quite yet God.

And in the meantime, I refuse to feel guilty for driving my car.

ID-Ego-SuperEgoCartoonHOGUE
First off, Anthony, thank you for this great comment!

Everyone is able to tackle the core source of all of our problems and failures—The Programmed, Ego-self-dividing Mind.

Choice can never be clear and clean without first understanding why the mind sabotages life. One cannot make the mind better. That would be the mind trying to transcend the mind. It’s just a trick of the mind. Yet through meditation techniques it may be possible to gain an understanding of the mind that brings an awareness that is free of it—that can use it as a servant and not our false master.

Focusing on whatever others can or can’t do about fossil fuel use and climate change is the mind pulling us away from the core problem. Don’t get lost in others. Go deep inside yourself. Become aware of how the mind runs you around. To do that one has to become aware of something that is beyond mind. Meditation gives us a glimpse.

GumbyMontyPythonStaresRightFeeling guilty about facts is another way the mind enslaves us through the hell of comparison. When I say everyone is at fault for climate change, I am merely stating a fundamental fact. However way you react favorably or unfavorably about that fact is simply the illusion of the mind reacting. I look meditatively at this fact—my part or fault in being one of 7.4 billion people using fossil fuels. I am part of the problem that is driving this civilization towards a planetary disaster. Whatever reactions of guilt, shame, alarm or feeling of helplessness or unworthiness comes up as a reaction to that fact I simply witness, like storm clouds moving as they will, flashing emotionally with lightning and pouring tears of rain.

The mind is like the weather. Meditation says, watch, understand without judgment for or against the clouds of thoughts and feelings and wait. They pass away on their own accord. Once again the limitless sky of consciousness is empty. In that blissful emptiness there is “Answer.” Questions have disappeared. A soul intelligence awakens.

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Then one does what one can in the world, being totally engaged in life but not identified with life. You do what you can, Anthony, and you can do much if you can see things beyond the guilt and the expectations and self-judging. You begin to see things as they are in the state of “such is the case.”

For instance, such is the case that you have to drive a fossil fuel car. Such is the case that you are disabled and unable to buy the Hydrogen burning fuel car. Such is the case that you’re inwardly fighting a feeling of being guilty about not being (as your mind is judging you to be) a better agent of change. This is all hiding behind your declaration: “I refuse to feel guilty for driving my car.”

Only someone struggling with guilt can say that. If there’s no guilt there no motivation to “refuse” anything.

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Meditation relaxes the sky’s hold on all those “storm clouds” and in time they simply vanish, you are still able to do “what you can” about it, even disabled. For instance, you can vote for those politicians and parties that work towards getting humanity off fossil fuel addiction. You can educate your friends and have them spread that education about manmade climate change. By teaching others, you might spread to understanding to those who can take significant action to help the planet. This is what I’m trying to do every day. There is always a way to help and you can find the way, if you meditate and let all those cloudy and confusing clouds of guilt and expectation simply evaporate from the limitless sky of your consciousness. (I will continue this thread in future writings. I have to get my mother ready for a new day handling her Parkinson’s disease.)

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  1. Gloria
    Posted 6 June 2016 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Just read this entry on J. Krishnamurti and your responses to “Rob”. Very insightful and with much truth. I feel if you two were to talk face to face, reason would prevail.

    I want to mention as I read this statement you made “Nationalists always need to find another people to hate and to blame their troubles on as scapegoats. The German nationalists blamed the Jews, you blame the Americans and so it goes. Divisions between human beings deepen and violence is just underneath divisions and scapegoat-mongering nationalism.” I immediately thought of Trump. And so does this one “We can’t choose to Change the Future if we don’t first understand how the Chooser cannot choose wisely.”

    I agree wholeheartedly that Rob should vent his frustration to his political representatives for positive action. I have done so many times from here in the U.S. (Michigan) and will do so now in regards to the transporting of Saudi and Canadian tar sand crude oil. Will of course first get a better understanding of what it is and the correct wording!

    I may also contact Rachel Maddow MSNBC. She’s the only reporter not only on top of everything but doesn’t let go of the “bone”!

  2. Crish Naidu
    Posted 31 May 2016 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    John Hogue, thanks for the lively discussion. Take into consideration that the world revolves around money. Countries and politicians will do anything, even vile evil, to increase GDP of their countries. Leading GDP countries of the world- USA, China, Japan,Germany,France, UK, Italy, India,Russia, Brazil. USA is a hegemony and the custodians of world peace. USA will definitely be the leading hegemony for many decades to come.
    The Canadian sands can definitely be replaced. Venezuela has the largest reserves of oil, followed by Saudia Arabia. Because of world politics much oil now is not sourced from these 2 counties. The other leading oil producers are in the Middle East, ninth and tenth are USA and Libya. All the leading producers, except Canada, are low cost producers of oil. Politics dictate here.
    All the peoples of the world harp on global warming. What leads to global warming. It is definitely the population explosion. United nations and politicians ignore population explosion. The key areas here are nearly the whole of Asia, excluding Japan and South Korea and the whole of Africa. Africa is degenerately and completely pathetic and bankrupt. Africa is akin to a young teen age baby factory. In South Africa, a judge said that she has still to me a 12 years virgin. The African countries are the poorest in the world, very poor, very corrupt and probably has the world’s worst population explosion. Suffers from drought and floods, malnutrition, poor education, bad parental care. We all should aim to reduce population explosion.
    Let’s go back. I ask you a question. John- why did you choose to be born in USA? And to your particular parents. Why did you choose to be born a male and a prophet.
    Take into consideration that many great Indian sages came to USA to change the materialistic culture of you Americans -Vivekananda, Parmahansa Yogananda, Osho ( who, your govt. Has extreme pleasure to throw in prison) and others. They failed as the Americans first God is Money, and then Gunpowder.
    The ffd theory is very con traversal and the truth. The soul is everlasting. Our soul is thousands of years old. We are from the “beginning”. We were the first organisms of creation, for ever evolving “Upwards and Onwards” in Latin “Ardus ad Solen”=Loft to the Sun(God). We then evolved higher. At any one time on earth, the universal law is that there can be only ONE dorminant leader/species. At one time the predecessors of the dinasaurs and the humans were racing side by side to become the dominant species. The dinasaurs won,were the leaders for millions of years and our predecessors remained as apes/gorillas.
    What happens next? How interesting. Do you realize that “WE ARE ALL ONE” and “ALL IS ONE”. WE, as the 7.4 billion inhabitants are spiritually connected to the “UNIVERSAL MIND/CONSCIOUSNESS” . The universal mind/consciousness/God has already determined the FUTURE. What’s got to happen in the future has already been decided. HOW? HOW INTERESTING? A conscious change had to be made to all the living beings, creatures and objects on our earth.How? All objects on earth had to have a drastic, conscious change. Then a star has to burst- a super nova- event. When this happens, colossal-gigantic,super-natural, spiritual magnetic vibrations bombards the earth from one side to the other, from top to bottom. The magnetic vibration goes from one side of the human to the next, same with the animals, plants, stones, mountains, oceans, lakes, sea-creatures, and all on earth. We un- knowingly are changed. Thus,we as the dominant species, are changed. All races are not changes at the same time. We are constituted differently with varying water content, including the brain. But eventually we all are changed- group behavior.
    Back to John. Why did he choose to be born American and to the particular parents and a male.
    We live for ever to spiritually evolve and to eventually with enough spiritually to join God to run the universe. We as 7.4 billion earth peoples are imperfect. We aim to perfect ourselves spiritually. After his previous life, John was a part of the Universal Consciousness. At this stage his soul was cleaned and perfected for John’s next like. He was scrubbed to get rid of his bad karma. He is now ready to evolve to John’s next life. He now scans the earth the perfect parents and perfect environment. John then chooses his parents, he chooses his sex. Thus John is created.
    John, as every other human born, is very special in the eyes of God and had to perfect his karma.
    John in his previous life was either Krishnamurti, Gurdjieff and definitely the soul of Osho transmigrated into John’s soul.
    Enough for today. Chapter 2 will follow from here. Thanks

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